Curse

Div · Dec 30, 2007, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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Originally Posted by VexedLucifer

R12+=Bad players who spend all their time in HA and think they're gud cuz of that phoenix...like leeloof and GANK

Fixed that for ya.

Winterclaw · Dec 30, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13

This has been suggested a billion times before now...

I don't think I can agree with that level of seperation though... maybe make about rank 6 the only divider because IIRC, that's about when people become elitist jerks.

While we are talking about HoH, why is it only one battle is going on at a time now that the regions aren't fighting for it? Why not make it as many that get there?

Kanyatta · Dec 30, 2007, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by VexedLucifer

R9-11=Most likely a balanced heaven.

Are you joking? It has been since Tombs was real since I've seen an honest-to-goodness balanced.

Ever since IWAY and ViMway were made, HoH has been all IMBA.

=DNC=Trucker · Dec 30, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Probably would cause more problems than it solves, but it would be nice for a R1 player like me to actually get in a HA group once...

VexedLucifer · Dec 30, 2007, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Fixed that for ya.

Wow a pver has an opinion, how cute.

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Are you joking? It has been since Tombs was real since I've seen an honest-to-goodness balanced.

Ever since IWAY and ViMway were made, HoH has been all IMBA.

Well I see a lot of balanced groups. Lol maybe you should run a balanced and get past golden gates.

Randvek · Dec 30, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Tiered HA would be nice, but then it would run into the same problems as GvG. I can't imagine the gnashing of teeth there would be if some higher ranks smurfed into Rank 1-3 HA or whatever.

RhanoctJocosa · Dec 30, 2007, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by VexedLucifer

R9-11=Most likely a balanced heaven.

If by balanced you mean spike + ward foes + grasping then ok

PS: Divine is pro at PvE c/d?

Fey · Dec 30, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

although i agree that something needs to be done to help new players or returning players in HA (i myself am returning from a couple of months break and have found it practically impossible to find a team that will let me in)
Tiering as said before would have long wait times, so is not the answer.
But it is annoying how many people refuse to take a unranked or low ranked player, there are low rankers out there with as much skill as the rank 10's but cannot progress due to the lack of low rank teams or higher ones willing to take them in.

RhanoctJocosa · Dec 30, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by Fey

...there are low rankers out there with as much skill as the rank 10's but cannot progress due to the lack of low rank teams or higher ones willing to take them in.

The only low rank players that would have more skill (though in HA I believe it's just experience over anything else) are those that are fantastic at the other areas of the game- Last Of Master was like rank 3, but I doubt they'd have trouble finding groups.

I know it's been said 9001 times, but everyone started as rank 0. It was just as difficult back then to get into a group as it is now. Keep trying, build up friend lists- it's not that hard.

undeadgun · Dec 30, 2007, 11:04 AM // 11:04

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

The only low rank players that would have more skill (though in HA I believe it's just experience over anything else) are those that are fantastic at the other areas of the game- Last Of Master was like rank 3, but I doubt they'd have trouble finding groups.

I know it's been said 9001 times, but everyone started as rank 0. It was just as difficult back then to get into a group as it is now. Keep trying, build up friend lists- it's not that hard.

couldnt agree more, friend list is FTW here

yum · Dec 31, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by VexedLucifer

Wow a pver has an opinion, how cute.

yay divine is a pver?

oh i c how pr0 u r.

Rage48x · Mar 17, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Here's a great idea..

Give people who don't really care about HA the option to remove the "Hero" title from their title page... Every time I click on my title screen and see Hero (1) staring at me I just want to choke one of those r12, fame farming, double faction weekend nubs.

Either that or go with the suggestion that we split the ranks and deal with the wait. For those who don't want to wait and are "impatient", create a free-for-all section where any rank can join. That way you can either skip the wait and risk fighting a "good player"(according to these rediculous ranks), or wait around for a bit and fight someone with the same amount of time put into the battle as you have.

Anyone care to argue?

Angelina Collins · Mar 17, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58

I say to eliminate this bullshit rank crap, players should be able to earn fame through out PvP and not just from HA

My earned fame system
HA: stays the same
GvG: earn 5 fame per match, winning team only
RA, HB, and TA: earn 1 fame per match, winning team only

Fame and rank are supposed to determine a players skill in a tournament, but HA is not the only tournaments anymore, GvG is and HB is, but to ad RA and TA is only fair, still the best place to earn fame fast will be HA, but atleast players will have options.

Twin Blade Warriror · Mar 17, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Angelina Collins

I say to eliminate this bullshit rank crap, players should be able to earn fame through out PvP and not just from HA

My earned fame system
HA: stays the same
GvG: earn 5 fame per match, winning team only
RA, HB, and TA: earn 1 fame per match, winning team only

Fame and rank are supposed to determine a players skill in a tournament, but HA is not the only tournaments anymore, GvG is and HB is, but to ad RA and TA is only fair, still the best place to earn fame fast will be HA, but atleast players will have options.

i agree but in ta , ra , hb u already get glad pts and commander pts..no need for another title there..but would be nice... and gvg u get champion or wat ever..but yeah would be nice to have some fame pts

but if u trying to get ur rank up..join a HA guild..if that doesnt work and u cant get a group together, either make ur own or just give up..dont really waste ur time..since u cant really use henchies anymore..no fun lawl

Kanyatta · Mar 17, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Angelina Collins

I say to eliminate this bullshit rank crap, players should be able to earn fame through out PvP and not just from HA

My earned fame system
HA: stays the same
GvG: earn 5 fame per match, winning team only
RA, HB, and TA: earn 1 fame per match, winning team only

Fame and rank are supposed to determine a players skill in a tournament, but HA is not the only tournaments anymore, GvG is and HB is, but to ad RA and TA is only fair, still the best place to earn fame fast will be HA, but atleast players will have options.

I like this system except for HB. You already get Commander points for a win, whereas you're not guaranteed a Glad point, per se. Maybe remove Glad points?

I really think not-high-end GvG deserves some kind of reward besides Faction. Seriously, a r800vr900 (or whatever, just below the champ range) is much more difficult than any HA match.

MithranArkanere · Mar 18, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Hm... what about scalling rewards so those with less rank get more points when facing those with higher, and making 'equal rank' matches have preference if there are enough people, and if there is not enough, then just let anyone enter.

Only the 3 highest rank matches would be observed and addition ones won't.

That should work.

RavagerOfDreams · Mar 18, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

I'd rather that then fight Kamakazi Tactics repeatedly.

i totally hear you ><

/signed

won't be implemented but /signed

jiggles · Mar 18, 2008, 04:02 AM // 04:02

Remind how your gonna be a better player if you play people the same/ worse than you?

oh thats right, your not.

mikeydj99 · Mar 19, 2008, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Gank Fails. NO one is good at ha...Its all about builds.....just being good doesnt guarentee a win. and neither does rank... 8 r12s randomway isnt going to beat a heroway...its all about the build you run. Gank is only good because they make there own builds to counter everything when logistcally there no better than average r3's...if you give r3's a build gank runs...they could still hold halls.

EDIT: And can spike.....

Julia-Louis Dreyfus · Mar 19, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

to the guy above me, how come some balanced teams are good and others are complete shit? same build, less skill. sure some of it is buildwars, but come on

and a "fix" would be to change the maps/objectives, skill balances, and get more pugs into